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Nativist Leader Clarifies Violence Statement, Sort Of

William Gheen, head of the nativist extremist group Americans for Legal Immigration PAC (ALIPAC), has certainly made a spectacle of himself this week. Shocked at the backlash from his Monday that 鈥渋llegal and violent鈥 鈥渆xtra-political activities鈥 might be the only way to save 鈥渨hite America鈥 from 鈥淒ictator Barack Obama,鈥 he is scrambling with all the effectiveness of a bug stuck on a pin to pretend he didn鈥檛 say what he said.

Gheen鈥檚 remarks, first reported Monday by , spread rapidly across the web, appearing on , , , this blog, and myriad smaller venues. By Tuesday evening, he was in full defense mode, backpedalling and accusing the media of deliberately twisting his words.

Radio host , who had linked to the interview with right-wing radio host Janet Mefferd on his own radio site under the headline, 鈥淲illiam Gheen: Violent, Illegal Activities May Be Needed to Bring Down Obama,鈥 Tuesday evening gave him an opportunity to clarify.

Breathless and agitated, Gheen told Colmes that that 80% of Americans agree with ALIPAC鈥檚 position on immigration, and that he himself has so thoroughly demonstrated his commitment to peace that it鈥檚 鈥渞idiculous鈥 that anyone would imagine he thought violence might be the only way to stop Obama.

Here鈥檚 a sample exchange:

Colmes: 鈥淵our words were, 鈥榲iolent鈥 and鈥︹

Gheen: 鈥淚 never said that was needed. I never said that was needed to bring down Obama like you said on your website.鈥

Colmes: 鈥淲ell, tell me what you mean.鈥

Gheen: 鈥淚 was reporting the condition of the American people.鈥

Colmes: 鈥淭hat鈥檚 not you said on that show.鈥

Gheen: 鈥淲ell, I don鈥檛 have to!鈥

Colmes: 鈥淗ow am I supposed to know what you mean? What am I, psychic? 鈥 Mr. Gheen, I鈥檓 only repeating your own words.鈥

Ultimately, Gheen conceded: 鈥淚 was speaking off the cuff and I should have prepared my comments a little bit better so they would not be exploited by my political opposition.鈥 Colmes objected to the word 鈥渆xploited,鈥 but let him let him off fairly easy: 鈥淭he rhetoric you used on this show seemed to probably not reflect what you truly in your heart believe, and thus you may have been misinterpreted, but they are your own words that you did use.鈥

Those weren鈥檛 Gheen鈥檚 only words. In the same Monday interview in which he suggested that those who wished to save 鈥渨hite America鈥 from dictatorship might have to resort to violence, he also proposed that a military coup would do the trick.

鈥淚 didn鈥檛 say just impeachment. I said remove him from office because some people are also leaning to the words 鈥榯reason鈥 and talking about the military coming in or somebody just coming in taking this guy into some form of arrest if we鈥檙e doing this,鈥 he told Meferd.

鈥淲hat does a nation do when this happens? We may have to try to gather in the streets and demand that Obama step down. But you know when you talk about doing that, you鈥檙e gonna gather in the streets of Washington D.C., which where Obama has a support rate of 88% of the blacks and Hispanics who live there.鈥

Strange words from a non-racist pacifist.

A 鈥渃larification鈥 posted Tuesday on ALIPAC鈥檚 forum was more of the same. 鈥淲hat peaceful and political hope do we have for any future border or immigration enforcement in America? Those responsible for this well organized invasion and betrayal of the American citizenry know the answer to that.... NONE!鈥

He continued: 鈥淚 am greatly saddened that anyone would place Americans in positions to chose between submission and violent revolt, but I am not the one creating that horrible situation, and I consider both options to be deplorable.鈥

Gheen has made himself perfectly clear. As he sees it, there is no 鈥減eaceful and political鈥 way to resolve things, and violence is the only alternative for Americans who don鈥檛 want to submit to dictatorship.

Which is exactly what he said in the first place.

Perhaps it will comfort him to know that his rant brought in at least one new supporter. In a post titled, 鈥淐ongratulations, William Gheen,鈥 Hunter Wallace of the white nationalist hate site Occidental Dissent (motto: 鈥淥utlaw Conservatism in Black Run Amerika鈥) wrote yesterday: 鈥淚 have quarreled with William Gheen in the past over his support for 鈥榣egal immigration鈥 from Latin America and his tireless attempts to distance ALIPAC from 鈥榚xtremist groups,鈥 but I now believe that Mr. Gheen is starting to realize the true magnitude of the crisis we are facing.鈥

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